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Post by musicus » Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:42 pm

Triplet problem here. In the attached example I created the triplets in meas.5 (Speedy entry, Opt/3) but, as you see, it added an extra rest at the end, and the brackets look wrong. In meas.3 I tried it similarly but didn't use Opt/3 on the last triplet. The triplets themselves look OK but I want two triplet brackets, not one. How do I do this? Thanks.
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Post by John Ruggero » Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:59 pm

The triplet definitions are set to 3 quarters in the space of 2 quarters. It should be 3 eighths in the space of two eighths. Click on the first note of the group with the triplet tool, then on the small box under the 3 to bring the definition and you will see that. Then you will need to start over and define the triplets in terms of eighth notes.
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Post by musicus » Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:15 pm

OK, Thank you much. I struggled with it for an hour but I finally navigated the definitions box. It wants me to define each tuplet. I think I got it now.
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The triplet definitions are set to 3 quarters in the space of 2 quarters. It should be 3 eighths in the space of two eighths. Click on the first note of the group with the triplet tool, then on the small box under the 3 to bring the definition and you will see that. Then you will need to start over and define the triplets in terms of eighth notes.

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:14 pm

Looks to me like you tried to enter quarter-note triplets with the default set to "3 eighths in the space of 2 eighths." A better default is "3 (use current duration) in the space of 2 (use current duration)" which works for both eighth-note and quarter-note triplets.

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Post by miker » Mon Dec 02, 2024 6:38 pm

motet wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:14 pm
Looks to me like you tried to enter quarter-note triplets with the default set to "3 eighths in the space of 2 eighths." A better default is "3 (use current duration) in the space of 2 (use current duration)" which works for both eighth-note and quarter-note triplets.
But being specific (3 eighths in 2 eighths, as an example) lets you enter 3 eighths, eighth/quarter, or quarter/eighth without any other adjustments. I guess it depends on your score: does it have eighth and quarter (and maybe half) triplets, or most of one or the other. Then you can decide what's the better default. The OP's score has both eighth and quarter note triplets, so in this case, the use current value is fine.
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Post by musicus » Mon Dec 02, 2024 6:58 pm

Thanks.I believe my biggest mistake was using the Opt/3 speedy method for this kind of situation, though it does work OK generally. I think I've got it now.
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Mon Dec 02, 2024 6:38 pm
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Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:14 pm
Looks to me like you tried to enter quarter-note triplets with the default set to "3 eighths in the space of 2 eighths." A better default is "3 (use current duration) in the space of 2 (use current duration)" which works for both eighth-note and quarter-note triplets.
But being specific (3 eighths in 2 eighths, as an example) lets you enter 3 eighths, eighth/quarter, or quarter/eighth without any other adjustments. I guess it depends on your score: does it have eighth and quarter (and maybe half) triplets, or most of one or the other. Then you can decide what's the better default. The OP's score has both eighth and quarter note triplets, so in this case, the use current value is fine.

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:34 pm

>Opt+3

Sounds like you're using Speedy entry. For either quarter- or eighth-note triplet, that should work, so I'm not sure where you went afoul. It was kind of hard to tell from your picture what you wanted.

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:37 pm

miker wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 6:38 pm
motet wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:14 pm
Looks to me like you tried to enter quarter-note triplets with the default set to "3 eighths in the space of 2 eighths." A better default is "3 (use current duration) in the space of 2 (use current duration)" which works for both eighth-note and quarter-note triplets.
But being specific (3 eighths in 2 eighths, as an example) lets you enter 3 eighths, eighth/quarter, or quarter/eighth without any other adjustments. I guess it depends on your score: does it have eighth and quarter (and maybe half) triplets, or most of one or the other. Then you can decide what's the better default. The OP's score has both eighth and quarter note triplets, so in this case, the use current value is fine.
Turns out it sounds like he's using Speedy entry. The picture suggested that his Simple entry default was three eighths in the space of 2, which is not fine for quarter-note triplets.

(Eighth+quarter of course works fine with "use current duration").

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