Trill with accidental not playing back in Finale 27

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David Ward
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Post by David Ward » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:45 pm

The trill in the screenshot doesn't play back in F 27 as any kind of trill at all. A plain trill from the smart shape selection does play back as a trill (but not necessarily with the right trill note). Does anybody know why this should be? (It's not a major inconvenience for me, as should I want to give someone a playback file, I can replace the trill with a two note tremolo, but…)

I need to up-date my profile etc. F 27, Mac 14.6.1.
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Post by motet » Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:48 pm

Oops--you forgot the screen shot.

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Post by David Ward » Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:02 pm

motet wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:48 pm
Oops--you forgot the screen shot.
It should be there now… (together with my up-dated profile &c)
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Post by motet » Sun Sep 15, 2024 5:26 pm

For what it's worth, this trills correctly for me. The trill with the flat above it is a Maestro character. Maybe the trill with a flat alongside is not recognized.
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Post by David Ward » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:18 am

I seem to have got round this by opening an F 26 score with such trills in F 27, and then copying and pasting one iteration of each such trill into the new F 27 score. These newly copied trills are then playing back correctly.
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Post by motet » Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:11 pm

Is the new score SMuFL?

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Post by David Ward » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:40 pm

motet wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:11 pm
Is the new score SMuFL?
I think so.
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Post by motet » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:34 pm

I think Human Playback watches for specific character codes (for example, trill with a flat), and those codes changed with SMuFL. They probably forgot to fix the SmartShapes, is my guess.

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